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Cheshire (Alicja, Oddtail and Mosse)

I don't see this talked about like, ever.

So I'll talk about it.

If you realised you're trans but find yourself sometimes not really hating your assigned gender and being like "meh" to it?

1) That doesn't mean you've been cis all along;
2) It doesn't mean you just imagined your dysphoria;
3) You're not "pretending" anything or lying to anyone, least of all yourself.

It just means you're more tired than dysphoric. Your brain can't keep negative feelings at full steam all the time, which is good. It's not supposed to.

Do not measure your transness by how much you CURRENTLY need to transition. Dysphoria comes and goes. So does euphoria, for that matter.

I went through several cycles of "I am trans. Wait... I don't feel strongly about this anymore. Was that real? No, wait, ARGH, I'm trans. Wait..." and so on, before I started transitioning. Fooled me every single time.

I still experience this. I'm experiencing this today. I am currently wondering why this whole transition thing is such a big deal to me.

But guess what. I know I'm trans, I've been through this before. Doubts that something is true are not the same as knowing it is not.

You will have doubts whether you're trans years after you transition to your general satisfaction. You will. It just happens. You will still be almost certainly happy that you transitioned. That's what being trans means.

If you don't MIND your assigned gender at the moment, but still your actual gender sounds neat, you're still trans.

You're allowed to pause things and recalibrate, or focus on something else. Your transition should go at your pace.

But you haven't suddenly become cis. I promise you that you haven't. You still prefer to function as your real gender, don't you?

I've done this enough times that I need to say it. It's OK. It ebbs and flows. As long as you're not actually *satisfied* with your assigned gender, as long as you have ANY overall need to transition, you're not cis. You may be genderfluid or genderflux or bigender or agender or genderqueer or non-binary. Knock yourself out exploring those (I sure did). There's no penalty for concluding with "nah".

You may also be very Very, Very Tired.

But none of those things mean "cis". I'm begging you, believe me.

EDIT: one good way to figure this out is - OK, so you don't jump for joy at the thought of transitioning. Now imagine yourself in your actual gender. Imagine it's all done and dealt with. Is your imagined self repulsive, do you want to *avoid* this? Does the idea of HAVING transitioned fill you with discomfort?

If not, then you're not cis. Cis people are *uncomfortable* with the idea of transitioning because they inhabit their AGAB. That's their entire deal.

EDIT 2: also, this is the MOST unintuitive thing ever - I firmly believe feeling "meh" about transition can paradoxically be a symptom of dysphoria.

I don't think it's an accident that I currently feel this way after some rough days, and while having to deal with several days' worth of facial hair. One way dysphoria manifests is that your emotions shut down for maintenance. It's good. But it doesn't mean they were never there in the first place.

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Toni Widmo

@oddtail@meow.social Thanks for this. I have had those 'meh' feelings, and continue to on occassion, and I'm 2 years in now. I've been living my gender for 3 years (when I started laser), so it isn't even because I'm still living my AGAB, because I'm not. Other than a few documents I need to change I've had my legal name change for a year and half. I haven't mapped those feelings at all, but I suspect they are more frequent at a certain time of the month.

Kaylee's Fluffy Show. 🏳️‍⚧️

@oddtail Thank you for putting this down in words. I have had this all the way from realising I was trans still to this day i often think about it but never discussed it with anyone. I don't find it confusing anymore I just see it as part of a process but in the early days it sucks and I'm glad you've brought it up as everyone who experiences this should know they aren't on their own.

[GRLC] fumo gaming
@oddtail I'm still pre transition but I've known for about 5 years now and this still hasn't changed for me, every time I doubt my transness it keeps coming back

I have friends who are seemingly indecisive about their gender but I know exactly what's going on with them, because, been there done that

figuring all of this out takes time, making peace with it all is tough, but nothing can invalidate those feelings in the long run :neocat_heart:
@oddtail I'm still pre transition but I've known for about 5 years now and this still hasn't changed for me, every time I doubt my transness it keeps coming back

I have friends who are seemingly indecisive about their gender but I know exactly what's going on with them, because, been there done that
MOVING > https://cooltrans.men/SympathyTea

@oddtail thank you for this post, very helpful as someone who is currently unable to medically transition due to the cost of it + slightly unwilling parental figures in my life constantly trying to scare me out of it

it really has just turned tiring rather than full blown dysphoria whenever i am reminded of the flesh prison i inhabit

Cheshire (Alicja, Oddtail and Mosse)

@SympathyTea

You'll get there <3 stay strong.

Aurora 🐀:blobhajhearttrans:

@oddtail this is so important thank you for this.

I think also something that has left me a bit doubtful about me being trans in my early days is that I couldn't exactly define what I was trying to become instead of embracing the process. It was a way for my internalized transphobia to go "well you don't seem to be very 100% on being a trans girl" as well as "well you don't seem to be very 100% on being non-binary". And at some point I went "true, I might not be sure about either of these, but that still means I'm definitely not cis, and starting my transition, both social and medical is something I want to do and I think will help me, so I should stop getting lost in the details and actually do what I can. Fuck gender, I deserve happiness."

@oddtail this is so important thank you for this.

I think also something that has left me a bit doubtful about me being trans in my early days is that I couldn't exactly define what I was trying to become instead of embracing the process. It was a way for my internalized transphobia to go "well you don't seem to be very 100% on being a trans girl" as well as "well you don't seem to be very 100% on being non-binary". And at some point I went "true, I might not be sure about either of these, but that...

:ms_tarot_sword: Sem :ms_tarot_sword:

@oddtail There is no way, you gotta be living inside my walls.

I've been feeling like this for a little while now. As someone who's been repressing themselves for years and only very recently admittes that they're trans, I have been pushing myself a lot towards transitioning. I'm in very early stages - I still have a lot to figure out and it still feels hard sometimes. And with life taking over recently, I have found myself having more and more doubts.

What I've been telling myself is that its ok to let life take over. As you have said - yeah I'm very tired (from both life and trans stuff). In the end I know that however I feel right now is just the product of the moment, and not how I really feel.

For anyone reading this in the same situation as me: genderdysphoria.fyi/ . TW: dysphoria obviously. It might hurt but sometimes I'd rather hurt from knowing than from doubts.

@oddtail There is no way, you gotta be living inside my walls.

I've been feeling like this for a little while now. As someone who's been repressing themselves for years and only very recently admittes that they're trans, I have been pushing myself a lot towards transitioning. I'm in very early stages - I still have a lot to figure out and it still feels hard sometimes. And with life taking over recently, I have found myself having more and more doubts.

Many Colors, Many Forms, Many Flavors, Maybe More

@oddtail@meow.social can confirm. binary trans here: mostly didn't hate my assignment; mostly it was just “yeah, whatever, it's okay i guess”

guess what me being a girl fucking rocks though

fucking rocks > meh whatever

that's how i'm trans

Kanera

@oddtail thank you

Eve, Back from Vulcan

@oddtail Thank you for this

I was feeling very unconnected from everything, not just transness, and I think I needed to hear this

Violet Rose

@oddtail
Thank you so much for articulating this so clearly. I'm going to share my reactions to specific parts in case they resonate with someone else who needs to hear this.

This is a long post, so I'll break it up with headings!

THE BEFORE TIME

Two years ago, after my marriage ended, I started rediscovering my femininity, without realizing what it meant. One year ago, I was completely burned out from stress at work, continued grief from my marital separation, and unconscious dysphoria. After getting into a stable situation, I fell into a mindset of being content with my existence, but not really caring about it. I was constantly so very tired. Then came my awakening...

WTF AM I DOING??

I had so much doubt during those first couple of months! What am I doing? Is this real, or do I just want to escape this nothingness? But I still pushed forward, doing everything possible to start my medical transition.

Even now, after three months on HRT, "Mr. Doubt" still occasionally knocks on the door.

IMAGINE...

Every time I've ever imagined myself with a feminine body, I've felt a painful longing, a deep ache for something I never thought I could have. I suppressed it for so long because I thought it was just a silly dream, and I had to face the harsh reality that I was just a man--a word I've always hated when I applied it to myself.

BACKING UP A BIT

The first time I started to embrace my femininity was 17 years ago. I was discovering myself, and feeling great about being accepted by my female friends. I went for three laser sessions when I realized how much I hated my facial hair (without realizing the significance). But after being ghosted by my best friend (100% my fault) and a disastrous dating period, I told myself to stop pretending and face reality. Like the prisoner running back into Plato's cave, I buried my true self and tried to play the role I thought I had to play for 15 more years.

WHAT YOU DON'T MIND DON'T MATTER

Today I'm 100% committed and 100% overjoyed about my transition, but I'm still zeroing in on the masculine aspects I want to keep. Even that thing. I can't wait to get rid of his two buddies (who are really useless), but I'm keeping a part of me that screams masculinity. I'm also working out to preserve my "hard curves." I love the curve of my shoulders, even if most women would consider them overly bulky. They don't make me feel less feminine.

JUST WINDOW DRESSING

They say "the clothes make the man." For the most part, I wear the clothes I've always worn. I don't wear makeup to work every day. Despite my highly dysphoric bald spot, I don't wear a wig.

All of those things are just expression. I'm confident in my identity and less concerned with how other people see my gender. I don't think of it as "boy-mode." To me it's a neutral presentation. In my workplace, we all wear jeans and casual shirts. On the shop floor, women wear the same coveralls as men. (They don't fit well, but that's another story.) My cis-feminine coworkers aren't seen as male because of their clothing; I'm not male because of mine.

SAY MY NAME

If there's one thing that makes me feel beautiful inside, it's when people call me Violet. It would have been worth coming out just for that joy. My old name was just a label; my real name is *who I am.*

Think of what makes you light up inside, the little things that make you yearn for your authentic gender. Let your doubts rise and wash over you; the sum of all of your joy will wash them out to sea.

IN THE NOW

Mr. Doubt visits me less often now, but he's still there, snoozing in my cerebellum. I don't care about him. After 53 years in the cave, I feel like I've *lived* most of my life in the last five months. Several times every day, I pause and thank the universe for my transition.

I AM VIOLET

I'm trans, I'm feminine, and I feel beautiful. :heart_trans:

@oddtail
Thank you so much for articulating this so clearly. I'm going to share my reactions to specific parts in case they resonate with someone else who needs to hear this.

This is a long post, so I'll break it up with headings!

THE BEFORE TIME

Two years ago, after my marriage ended, I started rediscovering my femininity, without realizing what it meant. One year ago, I was completely burned out from stress at work, continued grief from my marital separation, and unconscious dysphoria. After getting...

Violet Rose

@oddtail
That reply was so long, I pasted it into my blog, where it's a little easier to read.

iamviolet.ca/2024/01/18/what-i

Owashii :corgi:🐾:therian:

@oddtail I'm still trying to figure this all out and it was immensely helpful. Thank you ❤️​

114N

@oddtail Holy shit I needed to hear this. Like this post is directly addressing a while lot of my concerns rn. Thank you from the bottom of my heart.

Sam Adeleine

@oddtail Also, while gender feels like a huge deal early in transition, it's only a small part of who you are. If you're mostly comfortable with who you are, then you get to keep being that person, but with more authenticity. :)

Ti :therian:

@oddtail
Huh... I needed this, thank you. Cheers.

Katy Swain

@oddtail In addition to not feeling 100% conviction 100% of the time, I struggled with also not fitting the rest of the stereotypical trans life story, plus a pre-existing tendency to doubt my own judgement over even the most trivial things.

The way that I came to think about it was "The Big Book of WTF Is Wrong With Me does not keep falling open at the same page for no reason."

Aquila Hope

@oddtail I feel weird at this point. I do feel tired having to correct people calling me ‘sir’ but I know all my loved ones understand me being nonbinary too.

I’m just hopeful I can get access to gender affirming care this year and finally get the final medical transition started. Everything else is in place.

Ahri Boy :v_trans::v_enby:🍉

@oddtail@meow.social Done boosting! I still support everyone who went under HRT.

apm77

@oddtail Don't have time to comprehensively comment this morning, but if anyone's looking for an online trans community where such topics are often discussed, consider Crossdream Life tapatalk.com/groups/crossdream which is run by @transworld plus a team of mods (including me).

ValkyrieRoo

@oddtail it took me a very long time to realize this and now im happier than ever with who i am

Rachel

@oddtail@meow.social I feel this in my bones, just so tired at the moment...

&mut selves Qyriad

@oddtail "dysphoria comes in waves" was really common and vital trans advice a while ago, I think we should bring it back

vera grey :verifiedplural:

LB: i’m almost five years HRT, had all the surgeries i want to have had, and i still forget that i’m a woman a lot of the time. i’m also almost always exhausted so i definitely agree with OP’s thesis

Jaycie

@oddtail This is such an important observation. Thank you for sharing.

Fluffy 🦊

@oddtail thanks, I needed to see this...

Ashlyn

@oddtail this is such a powerful message!

L.J.'s mad sword-dance

Can confirm from the cis side that what @oddtail says about cis people is true. Like I don't even have strong genderfeels as a cis woman, nor am I super femme, but I would never ever willingly transition. Can't speak for all cis people obviously and there are outliers and exceptions in every group, such as heavy trauma from misogyny leading to a cis girl wanting to be a man--the detransitioners terfs love to use for scaremongering, but the truth is most who detransition aren't cis but rather nonbinary. However, it is by far not the definitive experience of a cis person to want to transition or be indifferent about transition, we will fucking fight the idea that we are anything but our assigned gender. If that doesn't describe you then it's definitely worthwhile to explore, at your own pace and chosen intensity, what might be up with that.

Can confirm from the cis side that what @oddtail says about cis people is true. Like I don't even have strong genderfeels as a cis woman, nor am I super femme, but I would never ever willingly transition. Can't speak for all cis people obviously and there are outliers and exceptions in every group, such as heavy trauma from misogyny leading to a cis girl wanting to be a man--the detransitioners terfs love to use for scaremongering, but the truth is most who detransition aren't cis but rather nonbinary....

Sapphire

@oddtail follow up with a "I feel this"
I barely felt dysphoria during the time I was working my butt off. Late shifts and taking every extra I could. I was absolutely exhausted. Then I got to normal times and dysphoria started creeping in again.
Important to note that working butt off was not healthy either. That resulted in a mental breakdown.

Cheshire (Alicja, Oddtail and Mosse)

@Sapphire_PaperCactus

Thanks for your comment <3

I can totally relate to this. I think I would've realised I'm trans many years earlier if I didn't unknowingly distract myself with various shit.

Agnieszka R. Turczyńska

@oddtail Thank you for this toot.

Cheshire (Alicja, Oddtail and Mosse)

@agturcz

I'm glad it was useful for you! I wrote it because I think I may've needed to hear exactly this years ago =)

arcadia :verifiedgenderfluid:

@oddtail oh thanks for that, im currently trans i also had that moments where i thought "am i really trans?", plus i've been recently thinking what if im actually genderfluid or bigender, so i still got a lot to find out

ariel :v_trans: :v_gf: :v_ace:

@oddtail I wrote myself a Google form that I fill in every day to track how I'm feeling. Then I can look back on it and realise that *every single day* I say yes to hitting that button (the button question) but also I can look at the graphs and see who I am *on average*. But importantly, there are days when I was tired, burnt out, overwhelmed, felt null, and gave up. These are all selectable, because I wanted to spot any patterns in why I end up feeling like that. Anyway... It's been great and I recommend this approach if you want some grounding in your own experience.

@oddtail I wrote myself a Google form that I fill in every day to track how I'm feeling. Then I can look back on it and realise that *every single day* I say yes to hitting that button (the button question) but also I can look at the graphs and see who I am *on average*. But importantly, there are days when I was tired, burnt out, overwhelmed, felt null, and gave up. These are all selectable, because I wanted to spot any patterns in why I end up feeling like that. Anyway... It's been great and I...

Screenshot of questions on my form. If you want the text from me, I can add it.
Screenshot of questions on my form. If you want the text from me, I can add it.
Screenshot of questions on my form. If you want the text from me, I can add it.
Screenshot of some graphs from my form, summarising my responses.
Cheshire (Alicja, Oddtail and Mosse)

@arielwip

That's very cool, and may be helpful for people early in their journey. Thanks for sharing <3

I took the liberty of Boosting your comment =)

ariel :v_trans: :v_gf: :v_ace:

@oddtail yeah, cool. I hope it helps folk.

ariel :v_trans: :v_gf: :v_ace:

@oddtail forgot to say, those screenshots show my actual answers for today. And those graphs are really me too. Also, you can use this thing... idrlabs.com/7-identities/test. ... Generates a nice graphic... Here was mine (me coming out was showing this to people) and I'm adding one I just did now (I got *more* trans!)

Another thing is you can ask chatGPT if you are trans. It'll give you a rundown of questions to ask. I answered them and asked what it thought and it said I'm probably trans.

@oddtail forgot to say, those screenshots show my actual answers for today. And those graphs are really me too. Also, you can use this thing... idrlabs.com/7-identities/test. ... Generates a nice graphic... Here was mine (me coming out was showing this to people) and I'm adding one I just did now (I got *more* trans!)

7 genders graph showing  30% cis, 70% gf, 60% NB, 86% trans, 46% gq, 6% intersex and 86% agender.
7 identities graph showing 30% cis, 73% gf, 66% NB, 96% trans, 70% gq, 10% intersex and 83% agender.
Eve, Back from Vulcan

@arielwip @oddtail I did something like this early on, I should start again

Eve, Back from Vulcan

@arielwip @oddtail
Actually, the early tracking for me was just "gender/10", with comments, 4 times a day, so it wasn't super useful. Is it ok if I get the text of yours for more ideas of what to look at? Gonna try planning this out tomorrow

ariel :v_trans: :v_gf: :v_ace:

@EveOfTheFuture @oddtail okay, was going to try to attach as a doc, but that didn't work, so just pasting here...

Generally:
• Feeling functional
• Hyperfixating on distractions
• Hyperfixating on symbolics
• Hyperfixating on identity or expression
• Feeling insecure
• Unsafe
• Overwhelm
• Burnout
• Meltdown
• Tired
• Wreckless
• Null

Today, did you feel...
• Acceptance?
• Gender euphoria?
• Gender dysphoria?
• Incongruence?
• Body dysphoria?
• Null?

Did you...
• Take photos?
• Like photos?
• Dislike photos?
• Try an outfit?
• Try a look?
• Give up?

Did you feel... (Grid cols)
• Incongruence?
• Congruence?
(Grid rows)
• Pronoun
• Name
• Named role
• Performed role
• Socially perceived role

Gender
• Feeling
• Rejecting
• Fluid/flux through the day
• Null

Gender Orientations (grid cols)
• A/null
• Masc
• Fem
• Both/enby
• Between/torn
• Fluxing/fluid today
(Grid rows)
• Feeling
• Wanting to express
• Actually expressing

Attraction? (Grid cols)
• Masc
• Fem
• Enby
(Grid rows)
• Aesthetic
• Romantic
• Sexual

Quick-Fire Round (grid cols)
• Yes
• Maybe
• No
(grid rows)
• Craving visibility?
• Push the button
• Craving more social transition?
• Would HRT
• Would surgery

Any additional notes

@EveOfTheFuture @oddtail okay, was going to try to attach as a doc, but that didn't work, so just pasting here...

Generally:
• Feeling functional
• Hyperfixating on distractions
• Hyperfixating on symbolics
• Hyperfixating on identity or expression
• Feeling insecure
• Unsafe
• Overwhelm
• Burnout
• Meltdown
• Tired
• Wreckless
• Null

Eve, Back from Vulcan

@arielwip @oddtail Thanks! Do you do once a day, or morning and night, or what? And what do you do with the analytics?

ariel :v_trans: :v_gf: :v_ace:

@EveOfTheFuture @oddtail I've only been doing it for about a month now. I have a reminder set for 9pm and I try to reflect properly on the whole day. I find that hard, and I have plans to write an app to quickly and easily tap in reminders through the day. I was originally going to use this, but then though a Google form is quick and I can start getting data straight away.

The analytics are used in maybe 4 ways... First, on average how do I answer the questions? Sometimes I doubt myself, but I look at the overall stats and there is no doubt! Second, looking at relationships between the questions, Eg when I'm tired/burnt out, how do I respond to the other question? Reflecting on why. Third, looking for more subtle patterns ... If I was really craving transition for a couple days... Was I then tired and burnt out? Are weekends different from weekdays? What about before and after trans/enby support group? And lastly, continuous improvement... I write things in the free text comment box (which itself was an improvement over the first version) and sometimes I'll comment and experience that obviously should be a question on the form. Social (in)congruence wasn't originally there, but I was able to add an important experience in the comment which made me realise I should add it to the form.

Ultimately, for me, it's about figuring out identity. I've been autistically masking so hard for 40+ years and I don't know the real me... Only the me that folk confuse for a neurotypical, straight, cis male, with good manners and a flexible schedule. Well fuck that! But I have this problem where I'm trans no matter how I look at it, and I really want to change my body, but I've really struggled to connect that with some inner sense of gender. I thought I was agender, and compared to most I still am. I really struggle to connect body dysphoria with gender dysphoria, despite the fact all my bodily hates are testosterone induced. So, reflecting on the data and patterns therein is really helping me to integrate all of it, both intellectually and emotionally.

Maybe a slightly longer answer than you were expecting 😁

@EveOfTheFuture @oddtail I've only been doing it for about a month now. I have a reminder set for 9pm and I try to reflect properly on the whole day. I find that hard, and I have plans to write an app to quickly and easily tap in reminders through the day. I was originally going to use this, but then though a Google form is quick and I can start getting data straight away.

Idea for an app
ariel :v_trans: :v_gf: :v_ace:

@EveOfTheFuture @oddtail
ChatGPT asked me:

"""
1. Feelings of Dysphoria: Do you feel discomfort or distress with the gender you were assigned at birth? This discomfort may manifest as physical, social, or emotional dysphoria.
2. Identity Exploration: Have you explored your gender identity beyond societal norms? Are you drawn to or feel a sense of resonance with another gender or with the idea of being non-binary?
3. Social and Personal Reflection: How do you envision yourself in social situations? Do you feel more comfortable being perceived and treated as a different gender than the one assigned at birth?
4. Fantasies and Desires: Do you have fantasies or desires about living as a different gender? Do you feel a sense of relief or excitement when imagining yourself as a different gender?
5. Historical Patterns: Looking back on your life, are there instances where you may have felt different from your assigned gender? Are there patterns of behavior, preferences, or feelings that suggest a disconnect between your assigned gender and your internal sense of self?
6. Exploration and Experimentation: Have you explored presenting yourself differently in terms of clothing, grooming, or other aspects typically associated with a different gender? How did these experiences make you feel?
7. Emotional Well-being: Reflect on your emotional well-being. Do you feel more aligned and at peace when expressing yourself in a way that aligns with a different gender?
8. Seeking Support: Are you seeking support from others who may be able to provide guidance or insight into your gender identity, such as friends, family, therapists, or support groups?
"""

I answered these in great depth and asked "does that sound like a trans person". chatGPT reflected really well on what I said... like I'd actually consider using it as a therapeutic tool:

"""
Based on the information you've provided, it does sound like you're experiencing a significant degree of gender dysphoria and a strong resonance with transgender and non-binary identities. Here are some observations from your list that align with common experiences of transgender and non-binary individuals:

1. **Discomfort with Assigned Gender:** You express discomfort with the gender assigned to you at birth, which manifests physically, socially, and emotionally. This is a common experience among transgender and non-binary individuals.

2. **Exploration of Gender Identity:** You've actively explored your gender identity beyond societal norms through various means, including consuming trans literature, conversing with trans people, and experimenting with gender expression. This exploration and resonance with the trans experience suggest a deep questioning of your gender identity.

3. **Social Dysphoria:** Feeling sad when lumped in with a gender group you don't identify with and experiencing joy and acceptance among trans/non-binary individuals are typical manifestations of social dysphoria.

4. **Fantasies about Living as Another Gender:** Fantasizing about living as a different gender, particularly with feminine expression, is a common experience for many transgender and non-binary individuals.

5. **Gender-Nonconforming Behavior:** Your history of exhibiting behavior that departs from your assigned gender at birth, including preferences for feminine clothing, fragrances, hobbies, and mannerisms, suggests a departure from societal gender norms.

6. **Exploration of Feminine Presentation:** Your exploration of feminine clothing, makeup, and wigs, as well as enjoying seeing yourself in feminine presentation, indicates a strong affinity for expressing yourself in a gender-affirming way.

7. **Alignment with Non-Assigned Gender:** Feeling more aligned when expressing yourself in a way distinct from your gender assigned at birth is another common indicator of being transgender or non-binary.

8. **Support Networks and Therapy:** Seeking support from a therapist specializing in gender identity and attending a support group with other trans and non-binary individuals demonstrate a proactive approach to addressing your gender feelings and seeking affirmation and support.

Based on these observations, it's reasonable to conclude that you may be a transgender or non-binary person. However, only you can truly determine your gender identity. It's essential to continue exploring your feelings, seeking support from trusted individuals and professionals, and taking steps that feel authentic and affirming to you. Your experiences and feelings are valid, and it's okay to embrace and express your true self, whatever that may be.
"""

Though I think the phrasing is questionable in places... Point 4 makes it sound like fem is more common, but that fragment is attached to the prior, which reflects what I wrote.

Of course, chatGPT could just be gaslighting me 😂

@EveOfTheFuture @oddtail
ChatGPT asked me:

"""
1. Feelings of Dysphoria: Do you feel discomfort or distress with the gender you were assigned at birth? This discomfort may manifest as physical, social, or emotional dysphoria.
2. Identity Exploration: Have you explored your gender identity beyond societal norms? Are you drawn to or feel a sense of resonance with another gender or with the idea of being non-binary?

Violet Rose

@arielwip
That's really detailed! The way I do it is much more free-form. I write in a journal throughout the day. Some days I write 300 words; somedays I write 3000. I started kind of spotty right after my egg cracked, but I haven't missed a day since January. I write about 20,000 words a month.

@EveOfTheFuture @oddtail

ariel :v_trans: :v_gf: :v_ace:

@violet @EveOfTheFuture @oddtail I love writing, but rarely have the time. I would rather write loads, but the form at least means I get some info there every day. Then sometimes when I have the time and energy I'll look at the result and write a bunch, but that's not even weekly ATM.

Luna

@oddtail@meow.social Saving this post, this is exactly me right now, everynyan should take a look at it

gjm

@oddtail This all seems correct and wise to me (though, being a cis guy, my
opinion's one of the less relevant ones) _except_ that contra @ljwrites I don't think it's true that all cis people find the idea of being a different gender distressing.

I cite myself as an example; I'm perfectly content being male, I wouldn't want to transition because it would be a nuisance for me and others around me, but if some mischievous deity intervened and I woke up tomorrow with a female body my guess is that once everyone had adjusted to the aforementioned nuisance I would once again be perfectly content and wouldn't want the nuisance of switching back if it couldn't also be done by Mischievous Deity. "Cis by default", they call it. And if I try to ask "well, which would I _prefer_?", I find myself weighing _consequences_ rather than comparing each possibility against some strong Internal Sense Of True Gender, which so far as I can tell I don't have much of.

(This isn't e.g. the same thing as being nonbinary. I definitely consider myself male; if my anatomy got magically switched around then I expect I would definitely consider myself female once I got used to it; not because I think anatomy determines gender for everyone -- that seems clearly false -- but it seems like it does _for me_.)

@oddtail This all seems correct and wise to me (though, being a cis guy, my
opinion's one of the less relevant ones) _except_ that contra @ljwrites I don't think it's true that all cis people find the idea of being a different gender distressing.

I cite myself as an example; I'm perfectly content being male, I wouldn't want to transition because it would be a nuisance for me and others around me, but if some mischievous deity intervened and I woke up tomorrow with a female body my guess is that once...

:patsMaddie: mjdxp :baba_maddie:
@oddtail



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"inhales*



Imagine there's a button that will turn you into your desired gender with no drawbacks. if you press it, there's no going back. however, you'll look and sound like whichever gender you picked. Everyone will treat you as if you've always been your chosen gender. If this button existed, would you press it? If so, you're very likely trans. If not, then you might not actually be a trans person. This analogy can help you consider if you really want to live your life as your chosen gender or not, so it-

*passes out*
Andrew

@oddtail

An interesting and insightgul Toot. Thank you for that.

I have dysphoria, but also longstanding severe body dysmorphic disorder, which leaves me in an odd place wherein my general presentation is not feminine at all, I think (apart from the odd splash of pink here and there).
My goal in life is to attract as little attention as possible when I venture out

Cheshire (Alicja, Oddtail and Mosse)

@Shivviness

That's relatable to an extent. And a perfectly OK choice. Sometimes drawing attention is just... bad.

I myself dress/present in a way to draw some attention (both because I'm vain AND because I am aggressively, politically queer)... then get occasional panic attacks when people stare. Go figure xD

Andrew

@oddtail

In a nutshell, I am convinced I am very ugly physically. I have been told I am not, but I I can't shake the belief that I'm hideous.
Were a fairy godmother magically to wave her wand and make me look more female, then I'd take it.
As it stands, however, I think I would look ten times more awful than I presently do were I to make my appearance more feminine.
I've been told by a few people online that unless you transition you aren't trans per se, but I think this is an unhelpful attitude.
I should qualify this by saying I am transfemme, and not fully trans. I think. I notice you are non-binary trans? I previously identified as non-binary, mainly for an easy life.
I appreciate your above thoughts

@oddtail

In a nutshell, I am convinced I am very ugly physically. I have been told I am not, but I I can't shake the belief that I'm hideous.
Were a fairy godmother magically to wave her wand and make me look more female, then I'd take it.
As it stands, however, I think I would look ten times more awful than I presently do were I to make my appearance more feminine.

Cheshire (Alicja, Oddtail and Mosse)

@Shivviness

OK, so a few things:

1) I don't know what you look like, but smart money is not that you would look "ten times more awful". A huge number of transfeminine people think that. They are usually completely wrong. Even ignoring that beauty is a very flimsy concept, dysphoria distorts the way you see yourself and ALSO the way you imagine you could be. I was convinced for a long time that I'd look absolutely atrocious as a woman. I do not. I still have insecurities about my looks, but I accept them... usually.

And since you also have body dysmorphia, that probably compounds your feelings.

Don't trust your brain. It's not necessarily always reliable.

2) People who say transition is a prerequisite to being trans should go choke on an acorn. This is nonsense. I was trans before I started HRT. I was trans before I was diagnosed with dysphoria. I was trans before I knew I was trans. Being trans means your gender and what the world told you your gender is are not in full alignment. Anyone who says "you're not trans because of X" is doing the exact same fucking thing, and they're a gatekeeping liar who's either hateful or ignorant or both.

3) By the same token, there are not "degrees" of transness. This thinking made me think I was not trans because I felt I wasn't trans the way I imagine trans people "have" to be. That's nonsense. There's a million ways to be trans. There's no "a little trans but not really". There can't be. If you don't think you inhabit your gender, you're trans enough. You have my permission to call yourself trans.

(and yes, I am the ultimate arbiter of transness. I voted myself to be one, and I didn't hear any objections.)

@Shivviness

OK, so a few things:

1) I don't know what you look like, but smart money is not that you would look "ten times more awful". A huge number of transfeminine people think that. They are usually completely wrong. Even ignoring that beauty is a very flimsy concept, dysphoria distorts the way you see yourself and ALSO the way you imagine you could be. I was convinced for a long time that I'd look absolutely atrocious as a woman. I do not. I still have insecurities about my looks, but I accept them... usually.

Andrew

@oddtail

Thank you, again. Those are all very helpful insights to my predicament

Kalcifer

@oddtail@meow.social I totally agree. Some days I'm "meh" and not very negative about being afab. And im like "omfg am i not trans?!?!? what?!?"

And then other days im super depressed about it, but thats when I have the energy for that. Dysphoria is weird. Im sort of.. lowering it? Like, im being fine about the parts I cant get surgery on bc I cant afford it. I'd like top surgery but if I never get it then I'm stuck with, as my husband says, "boy boobs".

And silly things like that end up making me feel less dysphoric lol

@oddtail@meow.social I totally agree. Some days I'm "meh" and not very negative about being afab. And im like "omfg am i not trans?!?!? what?!?"

And then other days im super depressed about it, but thats when I have the energy for that. Dysphoria is weird. Im sort of.. lowering it? Like, im being fine about the parts I cant get surgery on bc I cant afford it. I'd like top surgery but if I never get...

Crow

@oddtail thank you.

♱Angelgirl♱

@oddtail@meow.social the tired is so real

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