Napping.Synth.Download@sunguramy nasa wants to go to the moon, and wants SpaceX to help; which means he has to put up or shut up about his rocket tech (if you can’t hit our nearest neighbor, you can't hit Mars). Get rid of Nasa and you get rid of the one force holding you accountable, allowing you to flog the Mars lie forever
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@sunguramy ok, fair, but I think my point still stands: he can't ever put anything outside of the Van Allen belts, or his whole schtick collapses. Same reason he tossed the entire “budget/commuter Tesla” in favor of the low-volume, high impact Cybertruck. He'd have to commit to *cars and infra expansion* and not pie in the sky FSD. @sunguramy @neurobashing But what's the point in Mars? Pretty much all the same problems, and mostly even worse. I can't see any reason for it that isn't Musk wanking about the light of conciousness. @Syulang @sunguramy @neurobashing Human progress. Mars is the logical next step and would offer massive scientific opportunities IF DONE CORRECTLY. This kind of fundamental science often is too disconnected from our daily lives to easily grasp its usefulness. Without it there wouldn't be any major progress at all though. The whole "innovation" corporations keep pushing isn't worth dogshit without it. True advancements always come from peeps like NASA, people like Musk are just grifters. @Natanox @sunguramy @neurobashing but hat can we do on Mars that can't be done better and easier here on Earth? Its a dead, frozen, irradiated ball of rock that is millions of Ks away through a vacuum punctured by ionising radiation. We don't need an artificial challenge when we have so many real challenges that pose real, existential threats to us that we are refusing to address. @Syulang @sunguramy @neurobashing We can do better science. Learn material properties, astrophysics, how to grow food extremely efficient… there's a myriad of things that benefit us! @sunguramy @neurobashing However, the Moon is a lot closer. Mightn’t it make more sense to first build a lunar base first as a stepping stone towards merely landing on Mars? Also, solar power isn’t the only way to power stuff in space. Nuclear fission power is also a possibility, and it’s what would likely be required for any non-polar lunar base. @sunguramy "Sorry you got super by Trump 2016 propaganda." Sorry you resorted to selfish ad hominem attacks. So much for Mastodon being a safe place. |
@neurobashing Actually, NASA was going for Mars prior to 2016. The SLS is designed with Mars in mind. It was Trump back then who turned it to Moon instead, which is not what was desired. It is where we are now, and Mars by Musk is no happy matter. However, NASA could change trajectory again; this is the problem of being at whims of an administration. Trump had this idea that Moon is easier, and could be gone back to by 2020, making him a 'hero' of sorts...not realising that was an unfeasible task.